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What Happens When You Truly Surrender? The Motivational Medium on Gratitude, Spirit & Guidance

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What Happens When You Truly Surrender?
The Motivational Medium on Gratitude, Spirit & Guidance

What really happens when you let go and fully trust the universe?

In this heart-led episode of Connecting to Spirit, Lisa Brandis, founder of Intuitive Reiki International, channels a soul-stirring conversation with Annemarie Lord — renowned psychic medium, intuitive coach, spiritual mentor, and international author of The Grateful Three Approach to Life™.

Annemarie shares how she surrendered a 30-year career in nursing to follow her spiritual path as the Motivational Medium. You’ll hear the powerful signs that led her to trust her gifts, how gratitude transformed her life, and what surrender really looks like when you’re guided by spirit.

🔮 Inside this episode:

  • How Annemarie first awakened to her intuitive gifts
  • Recognising and interpreting signs from spirit
  • The neuroscience of gratitude and the RAS system
  • Tools to move beyond fear and self-doubt
  • Her daily Grateful Three practice
  • Plus, the unexpected role of humour, horses & authenticity in healing

If you're ready to deepen your spiritual connection and live with more trust, purpose and joy — this episode is for you.

✨ Hosted by Lisa Brandis — Intuitive Reiki Master Teacher, Spiritual Channel & Mentor.
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Welcome to Connecting To Spirit. I'm your host, Lisa Brandis, intuitive guide, teacher and founder of Intuitive Reiki International. In today's episode, I'm joined by the incredible Anne Marie Lord, a renowned psychic, medium intuitive coach, spiritual mentor. The international author of the transformational book, the Grateful 3 Approach to Life. She's known as the Motivational Medium. Annemarie has helped thousands around the world connect to spirit, find clarity, and live more empowered lives. In our conversation, Annemarie shares her powerful journey. From decades as a registered nurse to answering the call of her true spiritual path, we talk about the challenges that she overcame, the unforgettable moments of spirit communication, and how you can begin to recognize the signs that your guides are sending you. She also reveals how her signature gratitude practice can create powerful shifts in your life no matter where you are on your spiritual journey. Whether you are just starting to explore your intuitive gifts, or you are already walking a spiritual path. This episode is packed with inspiration, wisdom, and down to earth guidance you can apply in your daily life. So my friend, take a deep breath, open your heart, and let's dive into this soulful conversation with the one and only Anne Marie. Lord.

Lisa Brandis:

Welcome Annemarie to Connecting to Spirit. I have been an admirer of yours for a long time. I think I first read your book, the Grateful Three Approach to Life, just as I was publishing mine and to actually have the printed copy. I'm so grateful I brought it on Kindle initially. Um. And loved it back then and just rereading it. I've been making little notes about all the amazing content in your book that I wanted to discuss with you. so firstly,

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Oh, thank you.

Lisa Brandis:

to my podcast. Thank you.

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Thank you. Thanks for having me. It's an absolute pleasure. I'm so excited about this today.

Lisa Brandis:

I know, it's amazing, isn't it? I feel like every time we speak, I feel like, you're a kindred soul, Annemarie, and there's a lot of similarities in our story that I think makes,

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Definitely,

Lisa Brandis:

a, for an Easier connection. right, so I wanna begin at, start at the beginning. Anne-Marie, your story begins as a registered nurse and, you have a really grounded, steady career based in science. And one day something happened that helped you to realize your path was going to change in quite a big way. was there a moment or an experience or even perhaps a breakdown that cracked you open to the world of spirituality?

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

I wouldn't say there was a moment, going through my life, like being a young child, I was always aware of something, you know, there's something different. I used to call it me, navy feel, and I'd feel it in my tummy. And I'd also see like, I call it energy spirals and my mom used to say like, oh no, that's your temperature. because I'd see these like energy spirals in the air. And now what I know them to be was spirit. I don't see them anymore. but going through nursing, I believe. That being connected to spirit and which I didn't really understand fully at the time, I felt that it helped me do my job and connect with people. On an even deeper level. but to answer your question, was there a defining moment? Not really. I feel like I was pushed outta the, the nursing closet a few times and I always went back in, you know, I run back into the nursing closet. Yeah. So what I know and, you know, we all fear judgment and for me it was, how can I say it? it was a very. respected role as a nurse, especially a palliative care nurse and a woman care specialist. So to come out and say, look, I actually see dead people, you know, and I know this sounds awful, but I actually felt like a lot of my hard work, what I'd worked for, and if you've read my book, it was a struggle to get where I was, would've been quashed. So I was terrified to do that.

Lisa Brandis:

Yeah, a lot of my

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Yeah,

Lisa Brandis:

the same way, quite often when we go deep, it's our own self-judgment, isn't it? That we have to face as well

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

absolutely.

Lisa Brandis:

to terms with, our own beliefs around spirituality or being psychic or what it means to be a psychic medium. When we can question that and follow that passion, because did you find it was like the connection and the passion to the spirit world was just something you couldn't step away from, no matter how many times you tried it, like just kept coming back and kept coming back and it's like

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Yeah.

Lisa Brandis:

the shoulder.

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Yeah. it was like, you know, you are gonna do this, so just accept it.

Lisa Brandis:

you

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

you know, it was like, not ready yet, you know?

Lisa Brandis:

can,

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

it.

Lisa Brandis:

I

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

And trust me, I chose to go the hard way, you know, but it was like, hello, you ready today? No, not quite there yet. so they kept pushing and pushing. But one of the funny things was, I started doing readings for like friends and family and I used to say to them all the time, do not tell a soul what I can do. Do not tell a soul.

Lisa Brandis:

they

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

And they'd go, okay, we promise. Everyone, you know, absolutely everyone. And it was, it was like, oh, but she won't tell anyone either or he won't tell anyone either. And I was like, ah, okay. And then I decided to step out.

Lisa Brandis:

you just have to, I was doing a radio interview and I was asked to channel spirit and one of the co-hosts, her mum's very religious, and she said to her, mum, don't watch today's episode. And I said to her,

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

I.

Lisa Brandis:

Of course that means she's, you know, it's gonna spark that curiosity. And she checked in afterwards and yes, she did watch it. So it's

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Yeah.

Lisa Brandis:

I always think That whenever we feel a little bit scared about something or we feel nervous, it's because that is the path of our greatest joy because we care about that thing and we wanna do it well, and we wanna be the best that we can at that. And so the things that we are kind of like, eh, yeah. Uh, you know. hum about, they don't trigger us as much because it's not quite the path of our greatest joy. So I always think we have to wrestle with that kind of, know you speak about it in your book, just stepping outta that comfort zone

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Yeah.

Lisa Brandis:

need encouragement, and I know you're great with, supporting your clients and the students that you're training also,

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Yeah.

Lisa Brandis:

think that really plays a big part is, it's great support, great learning, great training, especially in this industry. You know, we have to have discernment as well to kind of be able to filter not only the messages that are coming through from spirit, but also, our own mind and our own beliefs as well.

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

It's not an easy thing to do.

Lisa Brandis:

No.

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Even though a lot of people are naturally intuitive, or natural medium mediumship skills, there's a lot more to it than, than just being able to, to connect with spirit. and that I found not the hardest thing, but. I think my nursing and helped the way I connected with people in really, hard situations. You know, with working in palliative care for 12 years, it's you, you meet a lot of people. Even though connecting, excuse me, with people through nursing, then working in palliative care takes it that step further and I think mediumship even takes it that step further away. So, so it all helps whatever it is that you do. It can help you. if you are a medium or if you are intuitive, it can help. rather than having to keep them separate, blend it together, and it will become your journey.

Lisa Brandis:

what I've always done. And I teach my students that as well.

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Excuse me.

Lisa Brandis:

when they're learning spiritual development and it's like, no, but you bring all of who you are to that situation

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

right.

Lisa Brandis:

I would imagine the work that you're doing that you would naturally attract people that perhaps have grief or, going through different stages of your life that you have yourself been through. we also can draw on our own life experience as a way show of how we've moved through some of the mess that we all experience in life. And then we become an inspiration to others

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Yeah.

Lisa Brandis:

that can be very valuable. And yes, I know with mediumship and spirituality, it's not like the logic can just read something, practice it, rehearse it, know it, it's a very creative process that requires, A sensitivity, but also just practicing the skills. Connecting often with your spirit

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

it takes time.

Lisa Brandis:

And getting past the doubts

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Yeah.

Lisa Brandis:

Because it, know, the

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Yeah.

Lisa Brandis:

comes in through the imagination

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Yeah.

Lisa Brandis:

it's quite a process. So, what's some of the most common signs from Spirit that you've been shown that perhaps people miss or some of the, signals or symbols that Spirit can communicate that can kind of help people know that their loved ones are around them?

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

I had this in one of my live events. a young girl at the front, she put a hand up'cause I have, I do mediumship platform mediumship, but at the second half of the event, I also do a questions and answers session so people can put the hands up or they can, they get a chance to write a question and put it in this big bowl that I have. so it's quite an interactive. event at the second half and this young girl put her hand up and she said, how come my nan has now become a willy wag tail? and I started laughing and I said, your nan has not become a Willy Wag tail. What we do is we associate so your loved ones don't become butterflies. They don't become dragonflies. They don't become willy Wagtails. What I believe happens, and I've been shown this from Spirit, is. That when we think about our loved ones, we think about them and then we, we will see a Willy Wag tail. So then that connection is made. That and spirit are very, very clever. Obviously they've got super powers now, if you like, lot more powers than we had when we were down here incarnated into this life. And what happens is every time we. Think about them. We see this Willy Wagtail, and then it becomes reverse because then spirit think, okay, you know, she needs my help today. Right. Where's the Willy Wag tail? You know, and the bird will come in, and as the bird comes in, it means your loved ones is around, because that's when you think of your loved one. So your loved one hasn't become a, a bird. Your loved one is around when you see that bird. And that's how, like, you know, I could talk about manipulating music so that you,

Lisa Brandis:

happen

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

hear it on the radio?

Lisa Brandis:

Yeah.

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

people say to me, how is it just at the right time that that song comes on the radio? And I says, well, think about it. When we go to the spirit world, everything is omnipresent. And what I mean by that is there's no time, you know, everything is in the now. There's no future. There's no past. Everything is now. They haven't, the radio is going to happen anyway. They haven't manipulated time. Time is happening anyway, if that makes sense.

Lisa Brandis:

Yeah.

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

when you are in and that song was gonna come on anyway, it's like being aligned because there's no future time and there's no past time in their time.

Lisa Brandis:

Yeah,

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

does that make sense?

Lisa Brandis:

about the feeling that resonates when they come close to us.

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Yeah,

Lisa Brandis:

you know,

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

that's right.

Lisa Brandis:

positive

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Yeah.

Lisa Brandis:

and a connection to them that we feel that resonance and it's all energy it's all vibration and frequency.

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

And the other thing is, is you've got to, and this is what I tell my students all the time on my podcast listeners, when you hear or when you see that bird or you hear that music, use that sign. That's a really beautiful sign.

Lisa Brandis:

Yeah.

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Think of what's going on in your life at that moment,

Lisa Brandis:

Check

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

know,

Lisa Brandis:

Hmm.

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

that's worring you and yet

Lisa Brandis:

Yeah.

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Have you got an interview? have you got something to write? have you got something that's going on in your life because your spirits are trying to give you a little, hello, I'm with you. You've got this. Do you know what I mean? and we miss that so much

Lisa Brandis:

so busy in

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

and I think that's quite sad.

Lisa Brandis:

quite often so busy thinking, and it's like, I love what you're suggesting there, Annemarie, just to stop what you're doing. As long as you're not driving and check in, and even just a general statement like, what do you want me to know right now? And then wait and listen to just see what thoughts come in. And, you know, I think

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Yeah,

Lisa Brandis:

Spirit team are whispering to us all day long. Every day. They're always there, always loving us.

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

absolutely.

Lisa Brandis:

that we check in

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Yeah.

Lisa Brandis:

And I think with teaching as you do as well, we are teaching people to create more opportunity for that. Deep, profound connection that comes from within that. So needed right now.

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Ev. That's right. And everyone wants stuff quickly. Everyone wants answers quickly. Now, you mentioned there very quickly, you said, as long as you're not driving. But even that, think if you are in the car and something comes on the radio. Where are you going?

Lisa Brandis:

Yeah.

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

you going to an interview? Are you starting a new job? Are you going on a date? Think of where you're going and what you're doing, because that just might be their way of saying, we've got you.

Lisa Brandis:

we're

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

And that's it.

Lisa Brandis:

And

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Yeah.

Lisa Brandis:

confirmation, isn't it? And just that support, that

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Yeah.

Lisa Brandis:

which we can get with like-minded people when we connect with people that know who we are and an encouraging of what it is that we are doing, especially when we are venturing into the spirit realm, but also knowing that we've got a whole angelic team and spirit team that's here to encourage us and to help us to navigate life. And, and I find, the challenges is trusting in that innate knowing and trusting in the messages that we receive. And when we do that, life just gets

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Yeah.

Lisa Brandis:

easier, doesn't it? Yeah.

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

yeah,

Lisa Brandis:

really,

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

You know, life can be hard sometimes, but if you can have a way of knowing that and knowing you're not alone, Walking the path with somebody or some spirits, if you like, can be so much easier.

Lisa Brandis:

Quite often

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Yeah.

Lisa Brandis:

you know, go to see their loved ones at the graveyard and they'd be in the car with them on the way there.

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

They used to show me that the, they'd get in the car with them and they'd drive to the cemetery and it'd be freezing. And then they'd sit in the cemetery with them and it'd be like, okay, you know, you're frozen off now let's get back in the car and let's go home.

Lisa Brandis:

yeah,

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

where ashes are or where, the remains are. Yeah, you can call your gu ides in anytime.

Lisa Brandis:

In at any time, when you

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Yeah.

Lisa Brandis:

when you first stepped into, mediumship. On a public platform, it can be quite nerve wracking for new fledgling mediums to get out there and start sharing their work. And I know I've certainly experienced the same with live channeling.'cause there is that element of trust. You have to trust spirit. You don't know what's, there's no script. You dunno what's gonna be said. And it takes a lot of courage Especially when we love what we wanna do and we really wanna do a good job and people are vulnerable with mediumship. So it is something that we train a long time, sometimes for many years before we take that first step on the stage to do platform mediumship. And I just wanted to know, what was it like for you when you first stepped onto the stage and started to give medium ship readings to a larger group? Anne-Marie.

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Absolutely terrifying.

Lisa Brandis:

It's,

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

I remember getting a chance, to work with another medium and, she taught me a lot actually. And when I went to work with this medium, I was absolutely terrified. And I think one of the biggest things is stepping into that power,

Lisa Brandis:

Yeah.

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

you know, stepping into that fear and that energy. And, you know, you talk about like, does it get any easier? No, it doesn't.

Lisa Brandis:

it?

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

single time. No. That's right. That's right. And every time I step into that or get onto that platform or onto that stage, um. Yeah, I'm still a, a, a lady who, um, I connected with in the UK called Hannah McIntyre. She's an amazing medium over in the uk.

Lisa Brandis:

Yep.

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

I actually done an interview on her podcast and she's been a guest on mine and she said, she sounds like Laie the Lamb. As soon as she gets up, she's like, hello. You know, and I thought, oh my God. So do I. So the first, when you, when you're introducing yourself, you know your lipstick to the top of your teeth and

Lisa Brandis:

horrible.

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

you know, but once it is horrible, it's terrible. But once you get into that, that

Lisa Brandis:

the energy.

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

or once you, yeah, I, it's like you've blended when, when you've done your meditation before the show, but you're still standing up and giving that introduction as you shall I say.

Lisa Brandis:

mm

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

not nearly knowing what's gonna happen, and then you say, okay, now I'm open.

Lisa Brandis:

mm

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

I feel. And then as soon as I open up to spirit, it fit in.

Lisa Brandis:

Yeah.

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

that laddy the lamb voice goes it. It's like, and you are on a float.

Lisa Brandis:

Yeah, and I

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

You just connecting and connecting and connecting.

Lisa Brandis:

I don't know, I dunno if it's the same for you with mediumship, but it's slightly different for channeling. But I, I also feel that there's an energy that is created by the room as a whole. So I think as an energy, as a co, a

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Yeah.

Lisa Brandis:

I think I found it easy to realize it's not just me here, and instead of focusing on myself and how I'm gonna look or what I'm gonna say, or what if I make mistakes or what if it doesn't resonate, I start thinking about. How can I be of service, not only with the help of spirit,

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Yeah,

Lisa Brandis:

I help the people that are

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

that's right.

Lisa Brandis:

it becomes more about them,

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

what it's all about.

Lisa Brandis:

and making a difference. And I think, um, I think it's, it's reasonable to be nervous around something and, and it is, I

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Absolutely.

Lisa Brandis:

of getting up in public speaking is one of the top two fears that people have. So I think we are really brave, Anne-Marie,

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Yeah.

Lisa Brandis:

to challenge

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Imagine.

Lisa Brandis:

to get up there and do it.

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Exactly with no script. You know, people who sing know what they're gonna sing. People who, who, that's right. They have a script. People who play

Lisa Brandis:

Yeah.

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

a script. We have no script.

Lisa Brandis:

the reason we keep coming back and doing it time and time again, for me, the experience is unlike anything that I've ever done in my human experience. It is the feeling of joy that I feel when I'm blended with my spirit team

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Yeah.

Lisa Brandis:

electrifying and I just feel so much,

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Mm-hmm.

Lisa Brandis:

and, the information that comes through is profound and wise and I love it. I just, I remember the very

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Yeah.

Lisa Brandis:

I saw Tony Stockwell trance channel demonstrate, and I was in the front row and felt that electrified energy, was life changing and I, you know how people have a near death experience and they kind of, at the end of that, they know that there is a spirit world. It becomes a knowing, not a question. I wonder

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Yeah, that's right.

Lisa Brandis:

the same,

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Yeah.

Lisa Brandis:

that,

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Yeah.

Lisa Brandis:

in a different altered state. was

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Yeah.

Lisa Brandis:

tune with his spirit guide. Like I could literally see his energy transfigure in front of me and feel the emotion of his

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

That's amazing

Lisa Brandis:

And

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

see that.

Lisa Brandis:

a hundred

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Yeah.

Lisa Brandis:

in this conference

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Yeah,

Lisa Brandis:

how to do that. It was from that

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

yeah.

Lisa Brandis:

I was like, I wanna do that. And

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

I know.

Lisa Brandis:

been

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Yeah.

Lisa Brandis:

the journey of developing.'cause it doesn't take, it's not

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Yeah.

Lisa Brandis:

can do easily. It takes time, but it's so worth it. It's so worth it. And I, I was listening to some of your podcast in preparation for this interview and there was two things that blew me away. I heard you talking about one of your friends that had AML so for those that dunno, acute myeloid leukemia, and she was in remission. And from what I know of that. Um, illness there, there's not many that actually, uh, make it'cause the stats are pretty low. My husband had AML when I was pregnant with our two ch with, my second child

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

No.

Lisa Brandis:

he's now 17 years in remission.

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Wow.

Lisa Brandis:

and some of what she was saying

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

My son.

Lisa Brandis:

because he literally saw it as a gift and changed his whole life based on what he

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Yeah.

Lisa Brandis:

when he went within, uh, when he had cancer and realized he was totally in the wrong

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Mm.

Lisa Brandis:

a sales wrapping job and he was just out of alignment

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Yeah.

Lisa Brandis:

and changed his whole career. And since then, he is never looked back and he doesn't say that I'm in remission. He says, I'm cancer free. 17 years

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

That's what she said. Yeah. I'm cancer free. Yeah,

Lisa Brandis:

So, so all these

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

She was amazing lady.

Lisa Brandis:

She sounded it on the podcast. So if you haven't had a chance to listen, do you know the episode number Anne-Marie, or what her name is so

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Oh,

Lisa Brandis:

find it?

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

her name is, her name is Sir Linley.

Lisa Brandis:

we'll

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

she's

Lisa Brandis:

mm.

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Sir Linley. She's just an amazing lady. I first was introduced to Siri. not personally. I seen a, talk at Tony Robbins event. She's one of Tony Robbins'. coaches and she teaches on his events, on his UPW events I messaged her when she was sick because she'd been such a big influence on my life, even though she didn't know it. And that's a thing that we do and to do in this, in the roles that we do. We don't even know the people that we touch half the time, and that's a big difference. And that's about always being true and standing up and authentically as you. But going back to Sadie, I contacted Sadie thinking I wouldn't get a reply, and I didn't wanna reply. I just wanted her to know that I was sending a healing through Reiki

Lisa Brandis:

so beautiful.

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

and she contacted me and, we've become friends ever since. So, yeah, she's,

Lisa Brandis:

that pure intent.

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

yeah.

Lisa Brandis:

That's beautiful.

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Yeah, she's such an amazing lady. She really is. And I'm so proud of the beautiful, amazing person that she is. Um, and yeah, she does, uh, she, through her illness, she actually went on to rescue horses who were ready for slaughter and yeah. And she's got this, um. She's got this, uh, a big company now, believe Ranch and Rescue, where she rescues horses and she's, oh my God, she's just beautiful. She's amazing lady. Her and her wife be,

Lisa Brandis:

oh wow,

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

yeah,

Lisa Brandis:

I did some work a while ago with Reiki healing and horses, and their heart feels profound. Like they were literally, remember laying

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Yeah.

Lisa Brandis:

table down in the paddock and there was four horses and there was a lady that was kind of translating what the horses were doing and, and I'm literally like, there was this big horse called Zeus, and I'm like. want Zeus, I don't want the big horse. Zeus. I wanted the little po. There was like a, the, I dunno, the female horses called mares. There was this sweet

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Yeah.

Lisa Brandis:

and she didn't want anything to do with me. This big boof Zeus came right up to me. It was nudging me and I'm like, get away. And it was so interesting. So I laid down on the massage table. And then she said to me, he came over me and literally waved his head right from the bottom of my feet over my head. And you know, to me, I always grew up loving horses. Like I've just loved

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Yeah.

Lisa Brandis:

magnificent animal. And I always love the arch of a horse. They just remind me of such

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Yeah,

Lisa Brandis:

And I was laying

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

yeah.

Lisa Brandis:

looking up under the arch of this horse's neck, just the most beautiful part of a horse.

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Yeah.

Lisa Brandis:

He was a test tube horse meant to, they had big ambitions for him to be a racehorse, and he failed all of their expectations, and so he was rejected. And the minute she said that, I just started sobbing because

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

yeah.

Lisa Brandis:

Rejection that I'd felt that I hadn't processed.

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Yeah.

Lisa Brandis:

little mare started nibbling my feet to make me come out of it. And we all started laughing because like

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Oh.

Lisa Brandis:

the horses just ground us and bring us back to like, I was like, okay, you got

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Beautiful horses.

Lisa Brandis:

ah, it

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Yeah. They're beautiful. so special animals.

Lisa Brandis:

So you've developed your own, method through the three grateful, grateful three approach to life.

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Yep.

Lisa Brandis:

what inspired this and how has gratitude,'cause I know that's a theme that threads throughout the book. How has gratitude changed the way you live and work with Spirit? Anne Marie?

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

I believe gratitude can change anything. Gratitude can change anybody's life.

Lisa Brandis:

Hmm.

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

for me, when I started seeing, What I had in life rather than what I didn't have. Then life became changeable,

Lisa Brandis:

Yeah.

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

a lot of the time we go through life saying, we haven't got this, we haven't got that, and it's so easy for us all to do that. I find myself still falling into that path,

Lisa Brandis:

Yep.

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

but having the grateful three approach to life tools, as I call them, is your bag of not staying there. So when you, when you start, oh, I haven't got this, or life's become a bit too heavy, or life's a bit shit at the moment, whatever it is, then. Then you stop and you put your hands on your heart and you just give thanks for three things. that's when life begins to change, because throughout that day there's, you know, it is science as well because, you know, I am a nurse. We will bring science in. When we give gratitude for three things in our lives. What we are doing is we are programming the RAS system, the reticular activating system. So what happens there is you start seeing more of what you've just programmed. The RAS system hasn't got sort of wrong. If you haven't heard of it, look it up. It's a, it's a, um, it's a system within the brain that. Looks at what we are emotionally thinking and helps us see more. So if you are emotionally thinking negative things, the RIS system will make you see more of what is negative. If you are, given gratitude or seeing positive things throughout your day, your RAS system flicks on and sees more of what is good in your life. So for me, this was like a light bulb moment I was thinking. We all work with this RAS system and don't know we've got it. What an amazing tool to have. So we can then script, we can change the pattern of our lives going forward by gratitude. You know, I didn't bring this in. If you look at, um, Buddhism,

Lisa Brandis:

the

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

gratitude.

Lisa Brandis:

Yeah. It's the antidote for anger and worry.

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Right, that's right. Or if even in, um, you know, if you're religious, if you've got being brought so Catholic, like I was, everything is about giving thanks. Do you know what I mean? This isn't new. Everything is about being grateful. So I thought, simple. What can we do? Put your hands on your horse. Take a deep breath in and give thanks for three things, but do it every morning before you even open your eyes.'cause you're still a little bit in that thesis zone. And then what I found is I'm brushing my teeth going, Hey, I've got teeth. I've got legs to get me out the bed. And things that we take for granted.

Lisa Brandis:

the

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Hot watered in it. There you go.

Lisa Brandis:

Or a beautiful

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Yeah.

Lisa Brandis:

Yeah.

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

That's right. But I, I wanna tell you something really quickly and very simply have your listeners, so have you as well, Lisa, have you ever thought that you're gonna buy a new car or you want a new car and you're thinking about this new car? I always call it the Red Range Rover. So you think about this new car and then the next day you get on the road and everywhere you look, there's Red Range Rovers.

Lisa Brandis:

definitely.

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Range Rover now that Orange Range Rover could look red in a bit of a light. So was them cars on the road the day before? Absolutely. You hadn't switched this on to c.

Lisa Brandis:

Mm.

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

So then if you decide to do this with gratitude, then you will see things to be grateful for. But then you'll leave and see Orange Range Rovers. So you might even say, well, being grateful for that yesterday, but you know, today, I could suppose I could be grateful for it. Do you get what I'm saying? It's, it's about

Lisa Brandis:

It

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

how the RIS. Massively. And why not use it to enhance your life rather than to make your life

Lisa Brandis:

I

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

or sad.

Lisa Brandis:

I often say that as a hypnotherapist, when we get the mind to work for us instead of against

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

absolutely.

Lisa Brandis:

change in our

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Yeah,

Lisa Brandis:

rapidly as well. And that's, yeah, I think really

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

very quickly.

Lisa Brandis:

there's one thing

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Yeah.

Lisa Brandis:

helped me with, there was a bit of an issue I was struggling with on our last conversation and you said, oh, go back to my book and go to the. Effort buckets. I won't swear

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Yeah.

Lisa Brandis:

buckets.

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

right.

Lisa Brandis:

again, these are simple tools that we often have learn before, but we forget and it's just, I sat there with this particular problem I had. I literally got out post-it notes and I'm like, this one goes and this. Bucket. This one goes in that bucket, and it literally just shifted my state. And that sometimes we can get on a loop in our mind over fear of what others think of us when we really have no control. It's none of our business what anyone thinks of us yet as humans,

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

shows.

Lisa Brandis:

we care. It's important to us. We want

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

yeah.

Lisa Brandis:

to like us. It feels good when they do so for. Our listeners, can you just, recap what the buckets are and give a great example of how someone can

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Yeah, so the buckets for me are. Everything about my, my book is common sense. It's quick, it's simple and it's common sense. Yeah. Now, the book for me was about confidence. You know, if you, if you are thinking of starting your own business, say for instance, and then you think of going forward and you think, okay, what will people say? What will people think?

Lisa Brandis:

outta the

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

What will people do?

Lisa Brandis:

Yeah.

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Yeah.

Lisa Brandis:

Yeah.

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

for instance, like me, like being a nurse and then stepping forward into telling everyone I was a medium, what will people, now the key, the key question here is people.

Lisa Brandis:

Yes.

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

so what I want you to think about is people who are these people? So a lot of the time we think about people as the people on Facebook or some maybe friend that you haven't seen for 40 odd years who you went to school with. Well, she might judge me. Really, so stay with me for a moment here. So we have these buckets. to the left of the buckets, we have, people who we don't know and they don't know us. say people that you haven't interacted with, people on Facebook, that kind of thing. And then to the right of the buckets, you're gonna have people who don't like you. And we don't really like them if we got to know them. Yeah. So, and it's okay to say that, okay. Spiritual people have people that don't like them.

Lisa Brandis:

Yep.

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

That's nice. And then in the front Booker here, we've got the people who love us and who care about us. So you are ready to start this beautiful, new venture within your life and you are letting the people stop you. I want you to think, which would you put the people. In because my friend, when you think of this beautiful journey and this beautiful new adventure that could change your life, your kids' lives, your family's lives, your home where you live, but you are letting their people stop you. The people that you mightn't have even seen in a hundred years or whatever, you know the people that don't like you, so they're not gonna like you anyway. But then I wanna take you to the front because then we say, okay, so say it's going to be me, mum that says, oh love. I don't think you should do that. Or, you know, maybe that's not the right thing. Or me, husband or someone like that. There's only two reasons that people will say that. The people who love you, and one of them is their own limit and beliefs, so they wouldn't be able to do it. Through fear or their own limit and beliefs. And the second is through their fear of love for you. They do not wanna see you fail,

Lisa Brandis:

Yeah.

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

so they keep you safe.

Lisa Brandis:

keep

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

when you wanna go on a journey,

Lisa Brandis:

Mm.

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

say that again.

Lisa Brandis:

Yeah. you end up playing small to please them, and you

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

You do.

Lisa Brandis:

Yeah.

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Yeah, but small keeps you small, keeps you never achieving your goals or your dreams, never getting your family what they wanna do. Never. You know, when I, I said to people I was coming to live in Australia, a place I'd never been before. I didn't even know where I was going. Um, I had a dream when I was about, oh God, I must have been about 14,

Lisa Brandis:

Wow.

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

never been to Australia at all. And I packed up, me, me husbands, me, three kids, and sold me house, gave our jobs up and landed in Australia. Was like, whoa.

Lisa Brandis:

family had a few

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

But the,

Lisa Brandis:

about that then.

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

everybody did. Everybody did. You know, are you nuts? You know? But if I were to listen to them and I would've let them stop me, I. My life would've been so different. So don't let anyone stop you. Put them in a book.

Lisa Brandis:

Yeah, I love it.

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Put them in a book.

Lisa Brandis:

simple but powerful and life transformational, experience that we can do and it does give you power back. And like I said, I tried it recently

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Absolutely.

Lisa Brandis:

it does make a difference. And it's amazing how when we get into it, you know, I think no matter when we are going through growth phases, sometimes there's changes we're going through in business. It never stops, no matter

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Yeah.

Lisa Brandis:

years in this

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

No,

Lisa Brandis:

a spiritual teacher. And I'm still learning, like there's always.

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

right.

Lisa Brandis:

Yeah, we're always humble

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Yeah.

Lisa Brandis:

we,

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Yeah.

Lisa Brandis:

Or the more I know, the less I know is kind of one of my favorite sayings'cause it just keeps us in that, you know, always in that learning frame.

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Yeah.

Lisa Brandis:

for people to know, even when we've achieved great things ourself, Ann Marie, and written books like we both have,

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Yeah.

Lisa Brandis:

you know, we still

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Yeah,

Lisa Brandis:

We still have ups and downs in health crisis and, you know, all kinds of things.'cause there's the human beneath the spiritual teacher that, you know, that we struggle

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Yeah.

Lisa Brandis:

And that can

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Yeah,

Lisa Brandis:

be helpful to know,

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Definitely.

Lisa Brandis:

What's the challenge that you've overcome that you feel would be really helpful for people either just beginning to learn or beginning to step out into mediumship or as Reiki healers beginning to build their practice? Is there anything that you wish you knew when you started that you now have learned through the years of your experience that would just make that journey easier to

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Yeah, absolutely. Stand in your own authenticity. you are not somebody else. You are you. You bring everything you are to your practice. You are never gonna be. Mary down the road because Mary's Mary. So people will go to Mary who, like Mary,

Lisa Brandis:

Yeah.

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

know what I mean? But people will come to you who resonate with you. You stand in your authenticity. The more we focus on what other people are doing or what, other people where they are in their practice or in their life, destroys. The energy and the, the self. Yeah. What you need to give back to you. The, the more energy you spend looking at other people is the less energy you spend helping you grow. You. So my one thing I would say. To everybody stand within your own authenticity. Do not worry or care. And that's one of the things I've found within this spiritual industry is, not everybody, but a lot of people focus on what other people are doing.

Lisa Brandis:

The comparison.

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

focus on what other people

Lisa Brandis:

Even in classrooms. I see people compare themself

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

yeah,

Lisa Brandis:

I'm like, yeah,

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

yeah.

Lisa Brandis:

may have come with a lot of other training into this channeling course. They may have come with years of development in a circle, which is why it may be easier for them to channel and you are just beginning. So it, it's, it's, it's interesting how many

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

But it doesn't matter.

Lisa Brandis:

ourselves. It doesn't, and I

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Yeah, it doesn't matter.

Lisa Brandis:

I think you're right. The more that we can focus on who we are and how we deliver

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Yeah.

Lisa Brandis:

self and know

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Yeah.

Lisa Brandis:

abundant world, there's enough for everybody.

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Absolutely.

Lisa Brandis:

and yet it's something that

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Yeah.

Lisa Brandis:

and time for people.

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

you know what I always think about is if you've got a wound on your arm

Lisa Brandis:

yep.

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

or you are trying to heal this and grow this skin back over and this wound, you wouldn't look at somebody else and say, I'm gonna fix your wound.

Lisa Brandis:

No.

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Why would you do that?

Lisa Brandis:

No,

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

I'll help you grow the skin by hover onto your wounds. One, it's impossible,

Lisa Brandis:

Yeah.

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

and two, it's a waste of energy.

Lisa Brandis:

disempowering

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

to bring it back. Absolutely, absolutely. If you try and step in and do that for someone, but majority of the time we don't do that. We just watch from afar and let what other people are doing. If you are focusing on other people, it destroys your confidence. It's like Facebook, Instagram, you know, don't stand in authenticity. Nobody else on this planet is you or comes to your business with what you've got to offer. So my friend, focus on you. Focus on you, and watch how your business and your spiritual growth will change.

Lisa Brandis:

Beautiful words of wisdom, Anne Marie and I can really feel that that will resonate with so many people. And I think it's great to be able to, condense it down into simple and easy to follow, ideas and instructions. is there anything else that you haven't shared that you would like to, Marie.

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

I could actually talk forever, so you might have to narrow me down a little bit there.

Lisa Brandis:

have to leave it for now and we can always

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Yeah.

Lisa Brandis:

for another chat.

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Yeah.

Lisa Brandis:

we've certainly covered a

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

What?

Lisa Brandis:

spirit mediumship teaching.

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Yeah.

Lisa Brandis:

I've enjoyed this conversation very much. And for those of you that would like to, Know more about Anne-Marie. You can grab her book and I'll put all the links in the show notes below, and you still take one-on-one clients for readings. Anne-Marie.

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

Yeah, now I'm booked up till December, so this year is nearly full. however, if you do book in, you can always go on the internal cancellation list. I don't have an external one.

Lisa Brandis:

Yep.

annmarie@annmarielord.com:

these are all for people who are already booked in, but you can always come and see me at one of the live events. and also, listen to my podcast, motivational Medium, and I would love you to read the book or come to my wanna. One, um, come to one of my, workshops, which would be great. So thank you.

Lisa Brandis:

and always lovely to see you again. All right, so that's it for today. Until next time, trust yourself, trust spirit, and keep your heart wide open.